"DHS responsibilities for aviation security, domestic surveillance, and port security have made it too easy for politicians to disguise pork barrel spending in red, white, and blue. "
The DHS umbrella is quite large and is responsible for many areas of homeland protection. There are some offices that are in our communities that don't advertise that they are DHS (no signs on the building and no flag pole out front, I happen to work in one) but still need protecting. DHS has their own police force to protect these offices and the people that work in them. I see nothing wrong with vehicles being purchased by DHS for their police force.
The bill that provides legitimate relief to farmers includes food stamp support, the emergency spending bill for Hurricane Sandy includes millions to repair a leaky roof on the Smithsonian museum that had nothing to do with the storm....so what exactly is going on here that is new or shocking from our pork fed federal bacon factory?
I think the results of the poll is one more reason we are trillions and trillions and debt and always will be. One side or the other always loves big government. Every big government program that contributes to out-of-control spending has enough defenders that the program will never be cut. We didn't have a HS 12 years ago, now it's apparently indispensable.
As a nation, we're doomed. Out-of-control spending is a much bigger threat to national security than any terrorist or drug lord.
well said howard.......how safe do we really need to be? we had plenty of security and more than enough police before the homeland security was drempt up and enacted.....just another false sense of security for the taxpayer...
"we had plenty of security and more than enough police before the homeland security was drempt up and enacted...."
And yet, that plenty of security and enough police, failed to catch the terrorists who boarded commercial jets in our own airports, and eventually took control of those planes, and flying two of them into the twin towers in lower Manhattan, one into the Pentagon, and who knows the intended target of the fourth one, as brave Americans on board that one made a move to prevent a fourth target from being struck.
For many decades we Americans have lived in a false sense of security, pre 9-11, and always thought we were invulnerable to terrorist attacks of this caliber. The warning signs was the discovery of a terrorist plot to bomb the WTC back in the 80s by radical, extremist Islamics, http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeli…
dhs is nothing more than a false sense of security....you go ahead and live in fear of some terrorist if you wish,i however will not..if the terorist makes it to my doorstep,so be it,it's time for me to go.in the mean time i will live in fear of the police state my goverment has been allowed to become.
Customs, Immigration, Border Patrol, Coast Guard, etc. have all been around longer than 12 years. Waaaaay longer. Do some research. Putting them under DHS didn't change what they stood for or enforced. So the question raised in this poll is a little vague or misleading. Howard, do you mean eliminate DHS and all it's parts (Customs/immigration, BP, Agriculture, Coast Guard, etc)? Or just the name "DHS"?
I will not depend on DHS. It is another defunct government waste management service supposedly for the people. I will however cling to my guns and religion.
http://www.cato.org/publicati
http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/abolish-department-hom…
"DHS responsibilities for aviation security, domestic surveillance, and port security have made it too easy for politicians to disguise pork barrel spending in red, white, and blue. "
The DHS umbrella is quite
The DHS umbrella is quite large and is responsible for many areas of homeland protection. There are some offices that are in our communities that don't advertise that they are DHS (no signs on the building and no flag pole out front, I happen to work in one) but still need protecting. DHS has their own police force to protect these offices and the people that work in them. I see nothing wrong with vehicles being purchased by DHS for their police force.
Maybe the question could read
Maybe the question could read "Should terrorists & drug smugglers be allowed to cross our borders freely?"
The bill that provides
The bill that provides legitimate relief to farmers includes food stamp support, the emergency spending bill for Hurricane Sandy includes millions to repair a leaky roof on the Smithsonian museum that had nothing to do with the storm....so what exactly is going on here that is new or shocking from our pork fed federal bacon factory?
I think the results of the
I think the results of the poll is one more reason we are trillions and trillions and debt and always will be. One side or the other always loves big government. Every big government program that contributes to out-of-control spending has enough defenders that the program will never be cut. We didn't have a HS 12 years ago, now it's apparently indispensable.
As a nation, we're doomed. Out-of-control spending is a much bigger threat to national security than any terrorist or drug lord.
well said howard.......how
well said howard.......how safe do we really need to be? we had plenty of security and more than enough police before the homeland security was drempt up and enacted.....just another false sense of security for the taxpayer...
they already do,and all the
they already do,and all the money in the world won't stop it..
Eliminate the Welfare and
Eliminate the Welfare and Food Stamp programs. Far more spent there than in DHS!
really greg? do you have
really greg? do you have some figures to back up that statement?
It's not an either/or
It's not an either/or proposition, Greg. It all needs to be cut.
The
The
"we had plenty of security
"we had plenty of security and more than enough police before the homeland security was drempt up and enacted...."
And yet, that plenty of security and enough police, failed to catch the terrorists who boarded commercial jets in our own airports, and eventually took control of those planes, and flying two of them into the twin towers in lower Manhattan, one into the Pentagon, and who knows the intended target of the fourth one, as brave Americans on board that one made a move to prevent a fourth target from being struck.
For many decades we Americans have lived in a false sense of security, pre 9-11, and always thought we were invulnerable to terrorist attacks of this caliber. The warning signs was the discovery of a terrorist plot to bomb the WTC back in the 80s by radical, extremist Islamics, http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeli…
dhs is nothing more than a
dhs is nothing more than a false sense of security....you go ahead and live in fear of some terrorist if you wish,i however will not..if the terorist makes it to my doorstep,so be it,it's time for me to go.in the mean time i will live in fear of the police state my goverment has been allowed to become.
Customs, Immigration, Border
Customs, Immigration, Border Patrol, Coast Guard, etc. have all been around longer than 12 years. Waaaaay longer. Do some research. Putting them under DHS didn't change what they stood for or enforced. So the question raised in this poll is a little vague or misleading. Howard, do you mean eliminate DHS and all it's parts (Customs/immigration, BP, Agriculture, Coast Guard, etc)? Or just the name "DHS"?
I will not depend on DHS. It
I will not depend on DHS. It is another defunct government waste management service supposedly for the people. I will however cling to my guns and religion.
How about eliminating NASA?
How about eliminating NASA? Billions to go to Mars and build space ships...
Ah, Cory, now you're stomping
Ah, Cory, now you're stomping on one of my sacred cows ...