Public notices: they’re paid for by taxpayer funds, created by public employees, intended for wide public distribution, but publication is dictated by a monopolistic government subsidy for newspapers.
It’s a law I and every other independent online publisher in New York State would like to change.
When I last wrote about this issue, a guy who has created a national public notices Web site contacted me and told me he was already compiling all of the public notices available online for Genesee County. For the simple price of sending him over our logo, he would provide a link where visitors to The Batavian could go and view public notices in a user-friendly fashion.
He wants to work with independent publishers to help prove online-only publications are just as capable of handling public notices as print publications, so he was offering the service for free.
The Batavia Daily News, under the current law, is the carrier of most paid public notices in Genesee County.
Since the notices originate not from the Daily, but from public agencies, it was our belief the notices are public property and not proprietary to the Daily. Besides, the only action The Batavian was taking was providing a link to a third-party Web site for the benefit of readers.
Now, months after we provided the link, the parent corporation of the Batavia Daily News, has decided to take a different view.
A few days ago, I received a “cease and desist” email from John B. Johnson, an executive with the chain of newspapers that owns the Daily.
The note was cordial, but also asserted legal authority to require us to stop posting public notices that originated from the Daily.
The note accused The Batavian of “copying” notices from thedailynewsonline.com, which was a factually untrue statement. As I noted in a reply to Johnson, the service was provided by a third party for which The Batavian has no contractual relationship and no monetary interest.
The assertion that The Batavian was violating the Daily’s copyright of notices also flies in the face of case law that substantiates the idea that a newspaper cannot claim copyright on material that it did not create. Since public employees create public notices, the notices are public property.
And besides, since no advertising appeared on the third-party’s public notice page, and since print publication of public notices is an income stream protected – a monopoly subsidy -- for newspapers courtesy of the State Legislature, the Johnson Newspaper chain cannot establish an important element of any assertion of copyright violation: financial loss as a result of the use of the material.
All that said, the Johnsons can afford corporate lawyers and The Batavian, still a small, family owned start-up, cannot. When you factor in that there is no monetary benefit to The Batavian for providing the free public service of increasing access to public notices, the risk-reward equation for challenging the newspaper chain’s claims falls well short on the reward side.
There’s just no point in fighting the corporation’s claims.
But we want to continue to provide the service.
The owners of the third party Web site, at no charge to The Batavian, have graciously agreed to start accepting public notices directly from town, village and city clerks along with the agents of every other public entity in Genesee County that create public notices.
Such agencies can now email those notices to (notices at the batavian dot com) (reformat that address into a proper email address, of course).
I’ve already been in touch with about a half dozen town clerks and all cheerfully agreed to start sending their notices directly to this email address.
While the service is free to the public agencies and won’t cost taxpayers a dime, it is no substitute – under current law – for an agency’s legal requirements to publish public notices in a newspaper that has been designated by state law to publish such notices.
While we wish our friends at Johnson Newspapers well in their effort to protect a business model that is being disrupted from a variety of competitive forces, we believe public notices should not be a State Legislature-sanctioned monopoly subsidy for print publications.
In this day and age, public notices should be widely available to the public, and publications other than strictly print should be able to compete for the business of providing verified, legal publication. We will continue to encourage lawmakers to change the law.
Howard. Thank you so very
Howard. Thank you so very much for your on line news. I agree with you absolutely on this matter. Thanks, Tom.
Dear Howard, Thanks for
Dear Howard,
Thanks for posting this and referencing our discussion. As I clearly stated in all my correspondence, I agree that public notices should be published in multiple forms to maximize exposure to the tax paying public. This is why I am a strong supporter of a project to put all legal notices state wide onto a single, free, universal access website.
My point of contention with you was how you or your third party chose to source public notices. Instead of spending time, resources, money to acquire, transcribe and publish public notices, you or your partner chose to copy them from our website. That meant you or your partner avoided using resources and time to acquire and transcribe the public notices. Yet, I still had to spend money for a person to source contacts, acquire, transcribe and publish. You took advantage of that modest investment.
While there is no direct financial benefit to your website from the public notices there is significant indirect benefit. You now can offer your readers more information and there is positioning benefit as you continue to compete in the media marketplace.
I am all for you competing, adding to the community dialog, offering new services and engaging your readers. That is what a free market and competition is about.
However, competition is also about hard work, investment and sweat. Copying something or partnering with someone who copies something that required hard work and time and using it without cost or investment isn’t right or fair. I am glad to see that you recognize that and now are soliciting public notices yourself. If you had done that in the beginning, we wouldn’t have had to engage each other in this pleasant dialog.
I believe it is fair to your readers, some of whom are our readers as well, to know the core of our issue. Thank you for the space to post my comment.
Sincerely,
John Johnson
John, welcome to The Batavian
John, welcome to The Batavian community. Thank you for signing up for an account. We all hope you will participate in future discussions.
As long as we're both calling for transparency, let's just be clear on a few things.
The statewide database you support is a newspaper initiative aimed at further protecting the monopoly newspapers have on paid legal notices. If you truly support competition and maximum exposure for public notices, then my fellow indie publishers and I can expect Johnson Newspapers to support legislation that will be introduced in 2013 to open public legal notice publication to online competition. When I see a letter of support from you for such legislation, then I'll believe your assertion here.
Further, let's be clear, you overstate the effort it takes for your newspaper chain to publish notices online. The effort to copy and paste notices from local agencies is hardly a large expense. Your biggest expense is in formatting the notices for print publication, which is irrelevant to digital publication. It was your company's choice to make notices freely and openly available online when there is no legal requirement nor monetary benefit to doing so.
But as I've stated to you in e-mail and in this post, all of that is beside the point. You simply don't own the notices in any way, shape or form. The taxpayers own the notices. To assert copyright protection on the notices, as you did in your initial e-mail, is just simply not supported by statute or case law.
Only someone with Johnson Newspapers would accuse me of not working hard. And ironic you argue fairness while protecting a government sanctioned monopoly over an important revenue source for your industry and asserting ownership over material that properly belongs to taxpayers.
As I said in our e-mail exchange, I actually welcome your pushing us in the direction of taking the very easy step (not nearly as hard as you state) of collecting the notices directly from the sources. It's the logical next step in proving that print publishers hold no magical ability to properly publish notices. One way or another, we'll break the anachronistic practice of requiring print publication of public notices, and your e-mail pushing us toward the next logical step and creating an opportunity for us to inform our readers on just how desperate print publishers are to hold onto this taxpayer subsidy is an overall benefit.
Enjoy your holiday weekend, John, I trust you will have ample time to enjoy your family and all the pleasures of living in Upstate New York in late summer.
Good evening Howard, As a
Good evening Howard,
As a publisher and a competitor, my only point of desperation the struggle that I seem to have with you over copying. When I was in school, I learned that copying from my neighbor was wrong and that doing my own work was right. Yes, there is labor to format for print and, truthfully, there is labor to format for online, especially since not all public notices are emailed. That point seems to be lost. So be it.
Cheers, Howard. I doubt I will have ample time with my family, because, like you, I work hard at trying to maintain as much employment as possible and a competitive stream of benefits for our team members. These days, that takes time and energy, as you well know.
John
John, well, then why does the
John, well, then why does the Daily copy the work of public employees and then charge taxpayers for it?
BTW: Will you support legislation to open paid public notices to competition?
Howard i do agree with your
Howard i do agree with your point of view on this..The law needs to be changed..It is a monopoly....At least if these were allowed to be bidded on ,it could have the effect of saving a few tax payer dollars ..In this day and age of internet and sites such as yours it is time for a change in the law..Since this sounds like a State law can we get Hawley on board to change this..
Curious as to where our
Curious as to where our Assemblyman and State Senator stand on this issue
The past two years, Hawley
The past two years, Hawley has introduced legislation to change the law. I've never been able to get a commitment one way or the other from Ranzenhofer.
Does anyone see the irony of
Does anyone see the irony of a man who inherited a newspaper from his daddy, Grandaddy and Great Granddaddy advising us about hard work?
Howard Owens has built his publication on his journalistic ability and hard work. He hustles and covers the community.
Master Johnson (at Exeter they used to refer to the teachers as "master") , copying and pasting legal notices into your paper and charging the strapped local governments a handsome sum of cash for it, is not hard work.