Well Gary, technically, 126 is on State St RIGHT BETWEEN HUTCHINS AND LEWIS ! ! ! So no, your not losing your mind. That area has become to be known for police activity!!! Sad! That use to be a decent place to live!
You know how there are streets in Buffalo & Rochester that you go out of the way to avoid? Well,State St. between Washington and Richmond is "the street" in Batavia to avoid nowadays..... I even hate stopping at the State St. & Washington Ave stop sign nowadays.....
Those people are saints when the car-a-van rolls up with free food . We might want to be less welcoming for this area . It is a safe haven for criminals and we continue to show support and help them out . I personaly do not agree with what car- a - van does over there . Many come into the area from Rochester just to get hand-out. It is a great idea but not for that area untill they can control themselves . The neighborhood is at an all-time low and yet we continue doing the same .
I do not believe that people would spend the money on gas to drive all the way from Rochester to Batavia to get some hot chocolate and a hot dog on State Street from Care-A-Van, or any other, ministries. Furthermore, I don't begrudge anyone the opportunity for a free meal once in awhile from a philanthropic group and an opportunity to hear Gospel music. Both America and Jesus are bigger than that. You never know what little seed may be planted that brings forth good things. If you gave $100 to a needy person and you found out he blew it at a strip club, your good deed still gets credited to you. I'm not talking about public assistance, however, which I believe we are already too lax with.
The garden style, low-rise apartments on Lewis Place were built in the early 1900s. They have always been rentals. In the 1970s they were owned by Lewis Del Plato, who rented some of the units to college students (College Arms Apartments). I am not sure when the property ceased to be student housing; it would likely be characterized (now) as low-income, family housing. The garden is obviously missing. Go anywhere in the world; poverty has no garden- ghetto, slum, shanty town, fevela, bario, Siedlung, kitongoji duni, kenar mahalle, township, трущоба, quartier pouilleux, gandi basti...
Actually, I was just reading about these today in a book on Genesee County architecture.
The apartments were built as rentals, and then sold as condos in the 1950s (after some rehabilitation), and then DelPlato required "most" (according to the book) and turned them back into rentals.
While the architectural style is common in more urban areas, from the period, Batavia never grew big enough that other such developments were built.
I still think it would be cool if some developer acquired them, revitalized the properties and rented them as premium apartments or condos. There's a ton of potential in those buildings. In the right hands, they could be made into something that would appeal to young professional urban adult types.
Howard,
I agree 100% it would be very cool to re-vitalize that area! They have potential but are infested with roaches and have been ruined by the folks that have lived there for the past 20 years or so.
I do remember when they were college "dorms" I think I may have gotten drunk and fallen down there once or twice!
Billie, I may be off-base, but I assume Tom is addressing the loop theory postulated by some local agencies. The theory suggests that Rochester-Albion-Batavia share intermittent residency for a group of people who cyclically relocate from one jurisdiction to the next. Multiple goals are achieved by this movement. Notably: avoiding those to be avoided and maximizing opportunity. I share your doubt that the Care-A-Van figures decisively in the motivational scheme.
Gary,I lived at 131 State until 1969, did you live on the right or the left side of Hutchins? I got creamed by a car while crossing from Hutchins/State and attempting to ride to Willow. A police officer told my father the fire hydrant on Willow and State saved my life by stopping the car. I was caught up in the wheel well and went under the tire three times before the car hit the hydrant and stopped.
I used to have a girlfriend who would automatically lock all the car doors at the sight of Bull's head. I thought that was remarkably odd. ...Until I took over the wheel for a friend, who had a resurgent spate of consciousness on Jay Street and began accosting me for driving his car in the bad part of town. Then there was the guy who wanted to eat at Nick Tahou's UNTIL I went to the downtown location instead of Lyell Avenue... I'm so insensitive!
Once on Chippewa in Buffalo I saw a black man carrying a bag that caught my attention and when he saw me looking at him and following him down the street with my eyes, he stopped dead in his tracks and said in a loud an venomous voice: "What the fuck you looking at?" I said: "Is that a Dulcimer?" He said: "What?" I said: "Is that a Dulcimer in that bag?" I had never seen a black man who played a Dulcimer and I was intrigued. He said: "Dulcimer? Hell no, it's a vacuum cleaner." And we bonded and we laughed and I'm still laughing. I'll bet he had no idea in the world what a Dulcimer was, but I did. No lie, !Verdad!
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are all the tasers fully
are all the tasers fully charged?
Stay classy State street!
Stay classy State street!
lemmie guess, in the area of
lemmie guess, in the area of State and Hutchins or State and Lewis???
**Sorry just -re-read the
**Sorry just -re-read the story--in front of 126!! (Duh, pay attention Gary!)
Well Gary, technically, 126
Well Gary, technically, 126 is on State St RIGHT BETWEEN HUTCHINS AND LEWIS ! ! ! So no, your not losing your mind. That area has become to be known for police activity!!! Sad! That use to be a decent place to live!
I lived on the corner of
I lived on the corner of State and Hutchins when I was young (40+ years ago!) it HAS changed!!
You know how there are
You know how there are streets in Buffalo & Rochester that you go out of the way to avoid? Well,State St. between Washington and Richmond is "the street" in Batavia to avoid nowadays..... I even hate stopping at the State St. & Washington Ave stop sign nowadays.....
Give people a chance and they
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Give people a chance and they will most likely turn out alright.
Those people are saints when
Those people are saints when the car-a-van rolls up with free food . We might want to be less welcoming for this area . It is a safe haven for criminals and we continue to show support and help them out . I personaly do not agree with what car- a - van does over there . Many come into the area from Rochester just to get hand-out. It is a great idea but not for that area untill they can control themselves . The neighborhood is at an all-time low and yet we continue doing the same .
I do not believe that people
I do not believe that people would spend the money on gas to drive all the way from Rochester to Batavia to get some hot chocolate and a hot dog on State Street from Care-A-Van, or any other, ministries. Furthermore, I don't begrudge anyone the opportunity for a free meal once in awhile from a philanthropic group and an opportunity to hear Gospel music. Both America and Jesus are bigger than that. You never know what little seed may be planted that brings forth good things. If you gave $100 to a needy person and you found out he blew it at a strip club, your good deed still gets credited to you. I'm not talking about public assistance, however, which I believe we are already too lax with.
The garden style, low-rise
The garden style, low-rise apartments on Lewis Place were built in the early 1900s. They have always been rentals. In the 1970s they were owned by Lewis Del Plato, who rented some of the units to college students (College Arms Apartments). I am not sure when the property ceased to be student housing; it would likely be characterized (now) as low-income, family housing. The garden is obviously missing. Go anywhere in the world; poverty has no garden- ghetto, slum, shanty town, fevela, bario, Siedlung, kitongoji duni, kenar mahalle, township, трущоба, quartier pouilleux, gandi basti...
Actually, I was just reading
Actually, I was just reading about these today in a book on Genesee County architecture.
The apartments were built as rentals, and then sold as condos in the 1950s (after some rehabilitation), and then DelPlato required "most" (according to the book) and turned them back into rentals.
While the architectural style is common in more urban areas, from the period, Batavia never grew big enough that other such developments were built.
I still think it would be cool if some developer acquired them, revitalized the properties and rented them as premium apartments or condos. There's a ton of potential in those buildings. In the right hands, they could be made into something that would appeal to young professional urban adult types.
Howard, I agree 100% it would
Howard,
I agree 100% it would be very cool to re-vitalize that area! They have potential but are infested with roaches and have been ruined by the folks that have lived there for the past 20 years or so.
I do remember when they were college "dorms" I think I may have gotten drunk and fallen down there once or twice!
Billie, I may be off-base,
Billie, I may be off-base, but I assume Tom is addressing the loop theory postulated by some local agencies. The theory suggests that Rochester-Albion-Batavia share intermittent residency for a group of people who cyclically relocate from one jurisdiction to the next. Multiple goals are achieved by this movement. Notably: avoiding those to be avoided and maximizing opportunity. I share your doubt that the Care-A-Van figures decisively in the motivational scheme.
Interesting, C.M. Maybe if
Interesting, C.M. Maybe if these purported opportunists would put their energies into getting some marketable skills, we would have fewer grifters.
Gary,I lived at 131 State
Gary,I lived at 131 State until 1969, did you live on the right or the left side of Hutchins? I got creamed by a car while crossing from Hutchins/State and attempting to ride to Willow. A police officer told my father the fire hydrant on Willow and State saved my life by stopping the car. I was caught up in the wheel well and went under the tire three times before the car hit the hydrant and stopped.
I used to have a girlfriend
I used to have a girlfriend who would automatically lock all the car doors at the sight of Bull's head. I thought that was remarkably odd. ...Until I took over the wheel for a friend, who had a resurgent spate of consciousness on Jay Street and began accosting me for driving his car in the bad part of town. Then there was the guy who wanted to eat at Nick Tahou's UNTIL I went to the downtown location instead of Lyell Avenue... I'm so insensitive!
Once on Chippewa in Buffalo I
Once on Chippewa in Buffalo I saw a black man carrying a bag that caught my attention and when he saw me looking at him and following him down the street with my eyes, he stopped dead in his tracks and said in a loud an venomous voice: "What the fuck you looking at?" I said: "Is that a Dulcimer?" He said: "What?" I said: "Is that a Dulcimer in that bag?" I had never seen a black man who played a Dulcimer and I was intrigued. He said: "Dulcimer? Hell no, it's a vacuum cleaner." And we bonded and we laughed and I'm still laughing. I'll bet he had no idea in the world what a Dulcimer was, but I did. No lie, !Verdad!
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