How does it lack clarity? The constitution grants citizenship (through the 14th amendment) to any child born in on US soil. Some people want to change that.
Yes, because if the poll question is too long, the URL breaks.
And it's quite obvious what it means as it is, because it's not like there's a lot of options -- maybe, maybe gradients of how it's done, but either you get to be a US citizen because you're born here, or not, is the bottom line.
Had the immigration reform of 1986 been followed up with the federal government doing their job, this would be a non-issue. Instead, we have almost double the number of illegals that were present in the mid 80's, and a nation that is quickly becoming spanish speaking.
Anchor babies have become a pathway to government assistance for many non-citizen parents. It is a practice that needs to be stopped. Tougher border patrols and stricter adherence to existing immigration laws would stop enabling illegals to enter our nation and have children here.
If the parents are not legal citizens of the US when their child is born on US soil, their child should not be a US citizen. I know that raises the question of "what citizenship does the child have?" That's fairly easy from a logical standpoint. The child has the same citizenship as its father.
Here's a can of whoop-worms. Was Obama born on American soil to parents with American citizenship?
"The Constitution's provisions are very small for qualifying for president. One, be over 35, and he is. Two, be in the country 14 years, and he has been. Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not."
"Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama very well, because she was white, according to Sarah Obama. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she later said, she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby—Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.—was born in Kenya and that shortly after he was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii."
It hasn't been proven, actually. McCain gladly handed over all of his documents proving where he was born. Obama still has not. His birth certificate is still in question as to its validity.
:-) Howard, I was hoping to rile other readers...the hardcore Obamafans. I didn't think you'd frog jump so quickly. Of course his citizenship has been proven over and over and the suits have been dismissed. That video clip is 2 years old and all the information is readily available on the web *wink*
Obama has handed over ALL he needs to hand over -- his birth certificate. Hawaii officials have stated they have an official, real, authentic birth certificate on file. There is absolutely no question of certificate's authenticity and validity.
If you asked me to produce any more than a birth certificate, I couldn't. That's all I have. Are you going to say I'm not a natural born citizen?
And logically, there is simply no getting around that birth announcement in the newspaper. There's no conspiracy theory big enough to explain that away.
Once again, if we would just follow the Constitution that those crazy, radicals wrote to guide this country, this too would not be an issue. It's precisely so-called "Constitutional Law Scholars" like Barack Obama wherever he was born that are constantly twisting it around.
The 14th Amendment, section 1 "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside....."
Key words for this discussion: subject to the jurisdiction thereof. If the parents are here illegally then they are not subjects of the jurisdiction are they? If they have no permanent address and are sending money to their home country, they are obviously going back, and they should take their children with them. Simple to me, but then I'm a pretty simple guy.
Doug, you picked the wrong thing to push buttons. The birther thing is too old and way to silly to waste the bandwidth.
Try again, tomorrow with something else.
Amended how? This poll
Amended how? This poll question lacks clarity.
How does it lack clarity? The
How does it lack clarity? The constitution grants citizenship (through the 14th amendment) to any child born in on US soil. Some people want to change that.
Change it how? That's where
Change it how? That's where the question lacks clarity.
Well, gee, um, to somehow do
Well, gee, um, to somehow do away with birth-right citizenship? How can it possibly get any clearer?
There, now would it have been
There, now would it have been that difficult to put that in the poll text?
Yes, because if the poll
Yes, because if the poll question is too long, the URL breaks.
And it's quite obvious what it means as it is, because it's not like there's a lot of options -- maybe, maybe gradients of how it's done, but either you get to be a US citizen because you're born here, or not, is the bottom line.
Had the immigration reform of
Had the immigration reform of 1986 been followed up with the federal government doing their job, this would be a non-issue. Instead, we have almost double the number of illegals that were present in the mid 80's, and a nation that is quickly becoming spanish speaking.
Anchor babies have become a pathway to government assistance for many non-citizen parents. It is a practice that needs to be stopped. Tougher border patrols and stricter adherence to existing immigration laws would stop enabling illegals to enter our nation and have children here.
We are being scammed and 53%
We are being scammed and 53% vote NOT to amend?
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2010-07/20/content_11026159.htm
http://www.newser.com/story/95796/china-entrepreneurs-peddle-us-citizen…
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/issues/anchor_babies.html
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecent…
If the parents are not legal
If the parents are not legal citizens of the US when their child is born on US soil, their child should not be a US citizen. I know that raises the question of "what citizenship does the child have?" That's fairly easy from a logical standpoint. The child has the same citizenship as its father.
Here's a can of whoop-worms. Was Obama born on American soil to parents with American citizenship?
"The Constitution's provisions are very small for qualifying for president. One, be over 35, and he is. Two, be in the country 14 years, and he has been. Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not."
"Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama very well, because she was white, according to Sarah Obama. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she later said, she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby—Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.—was born in Kenya and that shortly after he was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii."
Watch the ENTIRE clip before you comment.
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Let's see, the State of
Let's see, the State of Hawaii has a valid birth certificate for Obama. His birth was announced AT THE TIME in the Honolulu Advertisers.
Yet this nonsense that he's not natural born keeps popping up.
Amazing.
And I didn't watch the clip. I don't need to subject myself to propaganda that has already been proven false time and again.
It hasn't been proven,
It hasn't been proven, actually. McCain gladly handed over all of his documents proving where he was born. Obama still has not. His birth certificate is still in question as to its validity.
:-) Howard, I was hoping to
:-) Howard, I was hoping to rile other readers...the hardcore Obamafans. I didn't think you'd frog jump so quickly. Of course his citizenship has been proven over and over and the suits have been dismissed. That video clip is 2 years old and all the information is readily available on the web *wink*
C'mon, I'm not a total dolt: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
Obama has handed over ALL he
Obama has handed over ALL he needs to hand over -- his birth certificate. Hawaii officials have stated they have an official, real, authentic birth certificate on file. There is absolutely no question of certificate's authenticity and validity.
If you asked me to produce any more than a birth certificate, I couldn't. That's all I have. Are you going to say I'm not a natural born citizen?
And logically, there is simply no getting around that birth announcement in the newspaper. There's no conspiracy theory big enough to explain that away.
Doug, I always try to get out
Doug, I always try to get out in front of the truth, the best I can.
Don't be surprised if this is a poll question tomorrow, though.
Once again, if we would just
Once again, if we would just follow the Constitution that those crazy, radicals wrote to guide this country, this too would not be an issue. It's precisely so-called "Constitutional Law Scholars" like Barack Obama wherever he was born that are constantly twisting it around.
The 14th Amendment, section 1 "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside....."
Key words for this discussion: subject to the jurisdiction thereof. If the parents are here illegally then they are not subjects of the jurisdiction are they? If they have no permanent address and are sending money to their home country, they are obviously going back, and they should take their children with them. Simple to me, but then I'm a pretty simple guy.
My answer to the poll is no.
And, Doug, I was surprised
And, Doug, I was surprised you were the one pushing the birther line.
Howard, I was trying to have
Howard, I was trying to have some fun but you jumped so fast. This site needs a pvt message capability.
Doug, you picked the wrong
Doug, you picked the wrong thing to push buttons. The birther thing is too old and way to silly to waste the bandwidth.
Try again, tomorrow with something else.
Not an Obamafan, not a
Not an Obamafan, not a conspiracy nut either, in regard to his birth records. But wasn't Doug baiting an argument Howard?
Jeremiah, I stated as such
Jeremiah, I stated as such :-)